I always felt that the best way to assess my team is to seek the opinion of other people. Not people who also like that same team, but people that don't. People that actually hate that team. People that pay just as much attention as I do, but are hoping for the exact opposite things that I am. With that in mind I have this to say to Yankeeland....DO NOT FIRE JOE TORRE.
Actually do fire Joe Torre! He only got the Yankees to the playoffs 12 straight years. This season for all intents and purposes was a rebuilding year. Not your typical rebuilding year, considering the payroll was $200 million. But think about the influx of young pitching. Also think about the fact that within the past couple of seasons Torre has gradually worked young guys like Melky Cabrera and Robbie Cano into the starting line-up. The bottom line is there are a lot of guys in Torre's position that would not want to deal with the risks that are involved with young pitching and players. Torre has been a perfect organizational soldier in that regard. He swallowed his pride and adhered to the Joba Rules. He gave chances to guys like Ian Kennedy and Phil Hughes while pushing aside veterans like Mike Mussina for the good for the team and organization as a whole.
The most important thing though is the comfort level of the team. I mean, it is clear that Torre has not lost this locker room one bit. Every big name veteran is dedicated to Torre. They all seem to be eager to speak up for him. In addition, there is no one better in sports at dealing with the media. I think that will be more clear when Torre is out as Yankee manager and we see what his replacement is like under that day to day insane grind.
Look, I don't think Torre is like the best manager in baseball or something. I just think that he is still the best person for this job. As a Yankee hater I would love to see him go and watch the chaos in Yankeeland ensue. Tony Larussa? Wow. He has won a lot, but he has problems with the media in St. Louis! That's like having trouble catching up to a 90 mile per hour fastball, while New York is a Joba Chamberlain heater. Mattingly? Could be great, but no managerial experience. Girardi? His tenure in Florida ended a little messy and that is not the best sign going into this very unique Yankee situation. Showalter? Been there, done that. Valentine? Can definitely handle the media, but the clubhouse may be a different story.
Bottom line is Torre can still do this job better than anyone. If he had more than two good relievers and if Wang had a pair of cahones the Yanks might have just won this series. Torre has the respect of the veterans and is eager to develop the youngsters (which he is doing a pretty good job of so far). He has been the rock of this Yankee run. I hope the Yankees fire him, because I am eager to watch baseball in October without any games in the Bronx. Anyway, sometimes the best moves are the ones not made. This is one of them. The guy deserves it, the fans deserve it, and so do the players. The media? They prolly deserve a guy like Larussa. Met fans? We deserve Torre to be gone and to watch the Yankee fish bowl explode.
STKAFI
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"...the candidates who might replace him -- Trey Hillman, a former Yankees minor league manager who recently announced he would no longer manage in Japan; Don Mattingly, who has the gravitas but no managerial experience; Joe Girardi, who probably would have to answer questions about his short time in Florida during his interview process; Tony La Russa, who might be a perfect fit as a tactician but not as a conduit with the media; and Bobby Valentine, who has the New York experience and the respect and admiration of Steinbrenner. " ...
i guess i could have wrote what buster olney wrote on 10/08 as well. great work.
I'm suing!
I could do it!
What kinda odds am i getting to get this job in Vegas?
What are the odds!
I would fully plan on throwing every game against the D Rays so that I might cash out on the long odds they make the playoffs.
I could quote prolly 5 other articles from the daily news, new york post, ny times, etc. naming those same canidates. What's your point?
Should I have named Stump Merrill, Bucky Dent, and Art Howe instead? Why would I name guys who aren't actually canidates?
Idiot.
I'm torn on whether they should keep Torre or not
Why does Torre leaving mean these veterans would leave?
If Girardi is the manager it's not like he's a stranger to these guys. He was Posada's mentor, he was teammates with a lot of the veterans they are talking about leaving (Pettite, Mo).
Of course if it's not Girardi then that would raise these issues I guess.
Pettite just does whatever Roger does anyway.
I'm not surprised either way, definitely not surprised like Katz was this week when he learned the NFL has bye weeks
There is just a different comfort level with a new manager. Giardi is more of an in your face kind of a guy. Larussa handles the pitching staff in a much different capacity. Guys like Posada, Jeter, Rivera, etc have been so used to one way that we have to be unsure of how they would react to a different way.
Plus, the new manager will be stepping into very large shoes not just in that clubhouse, but also interms of prior sucess and reputation with the media. It will be very difficult to follow Joe on all three of those levels. I am not saying it can not be done, but coming off one of Joe's more impressive years (in many peoples eyes) this could be a lot of pressure on the succsesor.
We shall see, but it looks like Torre is a goner anyway..
no...but maybe your own opinion on who would do well and why instead of regurgitated material.
Quote from The League football draft earlier this year: "Damn, week 6 is going to suck for me."
You are just the "lucky" fantasy bottom-feeder(please just quit football, you're only embarassing yourself) who happens to play me on the week a lot of my players have byes.
Does any of that scheduling have to do with the fact that you have the commisioners balls in your mouth on a nightly basis? Perhaps?
Considering I didn't (and still haven't) read the Buster Olney column I would say it isn't regurgitated. This is a topic everyone is talking about and you are going to read a lot of stories, blogs, columns that say the same crap. Why don't you email Joel Sherman, or Tom Verducci or Bill Madden and tell them to stop regergitating crap. Also, I do not see Buck Showalter anywhere in your excerpt from Buster....but I know I mentioned him.
Please tell me that counts as my own material!! I do this soley for the approval of "anonymous"!!
2006 Girardi NL Manager of the year- fired!
2007 Torre AL Manager of the year- goner!
It's a curse!
Hell yeah clown.
You do it for me. You do it all for me
p.s. im ted danson
everyone else is an idiot
What's the difference between Neil Armstrong and me?
Neil Armstrong walked on the moon and I like to play with little boys.
A man walked into work on Monday with two black eyes. His boss asked what happened.
The man said, "I was sitting behind a big woman at church. When we stood up to sing hymns, I noticed that her dress was caught in her crack, so I pulled it out. She turned around and punched me square in the eye."
"Where did you get the other shiner?" the boss asked.
"Well," the man said, "I figured she didn't want it out, so I pushed it back in."
1) Stand on top of the high board and say you won't come down until your demands are met.
2) Tell the lifeguards that they aren't doing their jobs because you have seen at least 15 people kind of almost drown today.
3) Ask people if they have seen your pet shark.
4) Sit in the baby pool and play with the toys.
5) Take a flutter board and pretend you can't swim.
6) Hit strangers with your flutter board.
7) Ask an attractive lifeguard to practice CPR on you.
8) Sit in front of a water jet, make moaning sounds and say, ''Oh yeah... oooh that feels soooo good....''
9) Sit on the top of the water slide and don't move.
10) Swim near someone and go ''Shoot! I knew I shouldn't have had so much lemonade before I came here.''
11) Insist that you saw a monster at the bottom of the pool.
12) Pretend to drown and then when someone tries to help you, say ''HA-HA, fooled you!''
13) Scream as someone is jumping off of a diving board.
14) Laugh at fat people in swimsuits.
15) Tell people you saw the lifeguard peeing in the pool.
16) Ask a lifeguard if skinny-dipping is allowed.
17) Try to negotiate the price of getting in.
18) Take a really long time when you are on top of the high dive and then act as though you were pushed off.
19) When in line, ask strangers if they think invisible people get a discount.
20) Take your towel, tie it around your shoulders and say ''Wheee! I'm Batman!'' while running around.
21) Hit strangers with your wet towel.
22) Throw people's things into the pool.
23) Sing and dance on top of the diving board, then do a belly-flop as your grand-finale.
24) Play Marco-Polo by yourself.
25) Ask small children if they have seen any suspicious-looking sea monsters lately.
Hey Senator, do you want to go swing by the nursery school again today? Say around 3pm, when the school lets out?
Hi Certane :)!
A guy heard from his doctor that masturbating before sex could help him last longer. So he decided to try it. He spent the rest of the day thinking about where to do it. He couldn't do it in his office, so he thought about the restroom, but that was too open. He considered an alley, but figured he might get mugged.
Finally, he was inspired. On his way home, he pulled his truck over on the side of the highway. He got out and crawled underneath as if he was examining the truck. Satisfied with the privacy, he undid his pants and started to masturbate. He closed his eyes and thought of his lover. As he grew closer to orgasm, he felt a quick tug at the bottom of his pants. Not wanting to lose his mental fantasy or the orgasm, he kept his eyes shut and said, "What?"
He heard, "This is the police. What's going on here?"
The man replied, "I'm checking out the rear axle, it's busted."
"Well, you might as well check your brakes too while you're down there because your truck rolled down the hill five minutes ago."
Based on a true story involving Matthew Livingston Curtin.
Yes yes its true.
But what can i say,
its a pastime
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